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La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2012.06.13 10:14:00 -
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CraftyCroc wrote:The latest update is great however I feel you have somewhat shafted smaller corps when it comes to war dec'ing.
Two large alliances have come into the area and we have been sparring with them since they have arrived. A decision was made to war dec them and the cost has been quoted as 300m a week.
We estimate it would have cost us in the past circa 50m. Is it working as intended? I hope not.
You know you could avoid all this cost if you looked for targets outside of highsec. I know plenty of places you could go with you're small gang and get good fights. Try -A- renter space, where ever the Agony guys are, Delve, or better yet come see us we like fights. Of course you can't really play station games or have neutral logistics out there but I'm sure you weren't using any of those filthy highsec tactics, right?
If nothing else these wardec changes will remove some of EVE detritus and that's a good thing. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
29
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Posted - 2012.06.13 12:21:00 -
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CraftyCroc wrote:
We live in low sec. Generally we do not bother with war dec's as we are not bothered about being -10. The reason we have dec'd the alliance in question is because they fight with little skill but in large numbers. Generally we are engaging 5vs50.
Note they also expect us to take gcc and will not engage unless they have more ECM boats then we have ships.
If you're all -10 and in low sec then why are you whining about wardecs? Gate/station guns can't possibly be that much of a problem to warrant a wardec. It sounds like you need to recruit more people and escalate the situation if you want to deal with them or go fight someone else that you can handle. Instead of whining about wardec fees. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.06.13 14:54:00 -
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CraftyCroc wrote:La Nariz wrote:CraftyCroc wrote:
We live in low sec. Generally we do not bother with war dec's as we are not bothered about being -10. The reason we have dec'd the alliance in question is because they fight with little skill but in large numbers. Generally we are engaging 5vs50.
Note they also expect us to take gcc and will not engage unless they have more ECM boats then we have ships.
If you're all -10 and in low sec then why are you whining about wardecs? Gate/station guns can't possibly be that much of a problem to warrant a wardec. It sounds like you need to recruit more people and escalate the situation if you want to deal with them or go fight someone else that you can handle. Instead of whining about wardec fees. I have very quickly checked your killboard and noticed you are an amateur. I will however entertain your troll by offering a response: 5 vs 50? Yes gate guns are an issue. Tool.
Yes because telling you to stop whining about wardec fees instead of actively working to improve your situation via already available in-game mechanics is trolling. You are no different from the miners that whine for a change from CCP so they don't have to actually think about fitting their hulks and instead can just always fit for max yield. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
31
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Posted - 2012.06.13 14:56:00 -
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Michael Harari wrote:David Cedarbridge wrote:Let me get this straight, you seriously think that the only thing that is going to stop you from losing a 5 vs 50 fight against an ECM blob is getting a wardec to stop the gateguns? Man I've been doing my solo and small gang stuff all wrong. Goonswam is known for its excellent solo pvp, so this confuses me.
Bahahahahahahahaahahahahahhahhahhaahhahha , that was good do another one. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.13 14:59:00 -
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Morganta wrote:Cavel Avada wrote:I see this as working as intended. War is an expensive prospect. 10-man corps should not be able to cheaply wardec a corp 10x their size. It's just unrealistic. no, unrealistic is paying a fee above your actual war materials expenses. How much did Germany pay to wardec Poland?
500,000,000.00 isk. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.13 15:20:00 -
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THE L0CK wrote:Sadly it is working as intended. Many of us tried to give insight on how it would kill small gang warfare but sadly nothing was changed other than it costing us an arm and a leg and the defender can bring even more targets on the table for us.
Unless you are a market guru or love purchasing plex's, small man is dead.
What exactly is stopping all you small gangs from going into 0.0 and hunting for targets? There are plenty of idiots out there you can find. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.13 19:15:00 -
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Morganta wrote:La Nariz wrote:THE L0CK wrote:Sadly it is working as intended. Many of us tried to give insight on how it would kill small gang warfare but sadly nothing was changed other than it costing us an arm and a leg and the defender can bring even more targets on the table for us.
Unless you are a market guru or love purchasing plex's, small man is dead. What exactly is stopping all you small gangs from going into 0.0 and hunting for targets? There are plenty of idiots out there you can find. go spend a day hunting for targets in syndicate your pvp choices are: crash 20+ man fleets into each other camp gates in the hope that a single ship or small gang (chuckle) comes through play endless station games with null bears with supercaps bait -n- blop people like you who think that small gang warfare is thriving in null the only small gangs we see down there are out of towners and bait fleets
I've done plenty of small gang in Syndicate its not that hard to find targets it just takes patience. Also you do know you aren't just restricted to Syndicate right. You can go to Providence and Delve which both have lots of targets. You're choosing to play station games in nullsec which is just plain stupid. If you're dumb enough to fall for drops then well I guess you are the victim of natural selection.
E: Can't forget -A- renter space they make good targets too.
Asuri Kinnes wrote:Don't want to provide targets for hot-drops (or cold drops or even medium drops) probably. Also - people probably have no wish to provide "content" for bored 0.0 corps...
It sounds like you ~elite~ high sec pvpers are just whining about having to do things differently. Gee now doesn't that sound like the same old song the high sec miners sing maybe you all need better coping skills. Maybe CCP should require high sec dwellers to take a coping skills training mission. |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
32
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Posted - 2012.06.16 21:30:00 -
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I leave for a few days and all you ~elite~ pvpers have to offer are half-baked jadeesque conspiracy theories. If you're such an ~elite~ pvper then obviously gate/station guns will not be enough to interfere with your angry shouts of "MY KILLBOARD!" |
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